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bunn ([personal profile] bunn) wrote2006-08-10 06:53 pm

Terrorism & bagels

Today in passing I said to an American: "In Britain we have more flavours of terrorism than we do of bagel."

Then I wondered if it were true.

British Bagel flavours I've encountered: 
Cinnamon & raisin
Plain
Onion

Total: 3

British Terrorism flavours (not personally encountered, drawn from news).
IRA
Unionist
(I think you can count both, even if unionism isn't really a terrorism on the mainland?)
Islamic
animal rights extremists (I don't think they have actually killed anyone, but the most extreme actions *probably* count, as being designed to induce terror?)
Meibion Glyndwr (??? still current?  Are Meibion Glyndwr still burning the odd holiday cottage?  They definitely don't kill people though, not sure they count)

Total: 5, sort of.

I don't think Mebyon Kernow count, not even the ones that deface English Heritage signs.  That's just graffiti.

[identity profile] ladyofastolat.livejournal.com 2006-08-10 06:43 pm (UTC)(link)
But are these different flavours of the same thing, or, in fact, different things - like, say, a Garibaldi biscuit and a Madeira cake. No-one would say that a Garibaldi biscuit and a Madeira cake were the same, even though they share certain ingredients, and both serve to stave off hunger. An IRA person, a Unionist, and an animal rights extremist doubtless consider that they have nothing whatsoever in common with each other. We see the things that link them - the violence - but they see only their cause. One is a Garibaldi biscuit, one a Madeira cake, and one a tin of cat food. So it could be argued that we have more flavours of bagel than we do of terrorism...

Okay, I'll stop here, before I fall completely off the narrow tight-rope of sanity.

I am also amusing myself by picturing terrorism with bagels, which is how I interpreted the subject header initially.

(Anonymous) 2006-08-10 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the important question here is whether bagels would recognise fellow-bagels of a different flavour as brothers or not.

Ok, I think my tightrope snapped...
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[identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com 2006-08-10 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
hey, it logged me out!

[identity profile] ladyofastolat.livejournal.com 2006-08-10 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
We need to determine the prevailing social attitudes of bagels. Are they liberal, or are they prone to racism? I rather suspect the latter, actually - they seem rather dull and straight-laced. So I suspect that a plain bagel would look down horribly at an onion bagel, and want at the very least to segregate it, or, at worst, to go to war with it.

(Sanity? Who needs sanity...)

[identity profile] the-marquis.livejournal.com 2006-08-10 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Sainsbury's do Sesame ones too!
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[identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no! That means my entire premise is dangling on whether Meibion Glyndwr still exist or not!

[identity profile] king-pellinor.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
But surely that's just a plain bagel with sesame seeds on? Only a sub-class of plain, not a new flavour.

It's your typology, you can put things wherever you like in it :-)

[identity profile] king-pellinor.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 09:42 am (UTC)(link)
I get paid to argue that things aren't really what they look like at first glance :-D

[identity profile] the-marquis.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Spot the accountant!

[identity profile] the-marquis.livejournal.com 2006-08-11 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
So does that exclude poopy-seed coateds too?