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What is a blog for if not to put things into that you wanted to shout at the radio...?

So, I caught part of a short article about perfectionists and working with them.  To my mind it left out the most important thing about the majority of perfectionists (or, as I like to think of them, 'sodding perfectionists'.)

This is that in order to be an *effective* perfectionist, you need to a) know what you are doing and either b) be able to do it really well OR c) have a clear vision of what you consider perfection to be and how it is to be achieved and be able to communicate that, and preferably, measure it.

If you don't know what you are doing or how to do it or what effect it will have, then demanding endless change is not the pursuit of perfection.  It is random flailing without a clear objective or measure.   Also, the idea that one must 'get it right' assumes that there is only one 'right' available, and only one measure by which it can be judged.  This is rarely the case.

I reckon at least half the people who say 'can we just change this - I'm afraid I am a bit of a perfectionist' are misguided.  They are not perfectionists, not even a bit.  They are flailers.  They have mistaken random movement for progress.

Date: 2008-12-02 11:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smirnoffmule.livejournal.com
Indeed. Sounds extremely much like my boss. Usually her flailing will commence five minutes before home time, unfortunately.

Date: 2008-12-03 08:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Oh, I hate that. I had one client who *always* phoned at 5pm on a Friday. Though at least he was someone who did mostly know what he was doing. Thankfully he's been promoted and no longer plagues me on Friday evenings.

Date: 2008-12-02 12:05 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] sigisgrim.livejournal.com
In my experience it is frequently a failure to communicate what was desired. I've also experienced it in reverse, where I'm approximating to the "perfectionist" and the other person is failing to achieve what I think is correct; usually I've failed to explain myself in a way that the other person can understand. Sometimes this is me failing to be clear and sometimes it is the other person being dumb; not infrequently it is both.

Date: 2008-12-03 08:22 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Communication failure can usually be resolved without too much difficulty: the real problem comes if the supposed perfectionist doesn't really understand what they are trying to perfect, yet still insists on trying to micromanage it.

Date: 2008-12-02 04:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] philmophlegm.livejournal.com
Remember that certain terribly posh golf club I used to audit? The secretary there was a 'perfectionist', and said it was down to his career in the navy (he had been a commander). What it meant in practice was that he had very little idea about basic bookkeeping and absolutely no concept of materiality. As in "I don't care that the stock of Kirsch is overstated by two bottles, and neither does anyone else. However, I do care that your trial balance doesn't. Balance that is."

Date: 2008-12-03 08:24 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Oh lord, people who don't get the bottom line. You've heard me rant on that topic. Will moving this X from left to right make you sell more stuff? No? THEN WHY SPEND MONEY DOING IT? grrr.

Date: 2008-12-02 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kargicq.livejournal.com
Good rant!

Date: 2008-12-03 08:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I wished that radio were a more interactive medium at the time, but I suppose if it were I wouldn't have had a chance to think it out so well!

Date: 2008-12-03 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] helflaed.livejournal.com
I suspect that true perfectionists will not describe themselves as such, because they will never ever think that they are good enough, whereas those who describe themselves as perfectionists just... aren't.

Date: 2008-12-03 08:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Good point. Though in many contexts, I would quibble with the very concept of an achievable perfection.

There's something Yodaesque there about there being no try, but I can't quite work it out.

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