I am getting a lot of peer pressure from neighbours who all have out their bunting etc... I am not very buntingy but a freak patriotic urge in Tesco the other day forced me to buy a St.George's tie (basically a bright white tie with long red stripe down it, crossed about 1/2 way down.) It got its 1st outing at work today. It certainly helped start conversations!
I'm not sure what statement going to work in a suit and loud England tie makes about my social status. Upwardly mobile chav?
We're currently up to 7 pages of debate on the aforementioned forums on the topic 'England Flags - Patriotic or Chav'.
On the whole the feeling seemed to be 'slightly chav, but also fun' but some people said people should not fly flags because it was offensive and likely to be seen as racist.
From a position of complete uninvolvement, I have moved to being on the verge of buying England bandanas for both the dogs...
> some people said people should not fly flags > because it was offensive and likely to be seen > as racist.
I would have said definitely not, and that non-racists should use it to try and recapture the flag from extremists. I still do think that, but I must admit I felt odd walking around yesterday afternoon, worrying whether I was offending the black and Asian people I was passing in the street...
Yet, surely at least some of them were English too? And/or likely to support England in the football? I guess to some extent worrying about offending/PCness is a sign of a still (partly) inherently racist society, along with positive discrimination etc. If we were all truly 'integrated' or whatever the latest buzz-word is, we wouldn't need to worry.
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Date: 2006-06-09 10:17 pm (UTC)I am getting a lot of peer pressure from neighbours who all have out their bunting etc... I am not very buntingy but a freak patriotic urge in Tesco the other day forced me to buy a St.George's tie (basically a bright white tie with long red stripe down it, crossed about 1/2 way down.) It got its 1st outing at work today. It certainly helped start conversations!
I'm not sure what statement going to work in a suit and loud England tie makes about my social status. Upwardly mobile chav?
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Date: 2006-06-09 10:37 pm (UTC)On the whole the feeling seemed to be 'slightly chav, but also fun' but some people said people should not fly flags because it was offensive and likely to be seen as racist.
From a position of complete uninvolvement, I have moved to being on the verge of buying England bandanas for both the dogs...
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Date: 2006-06-10 09:43 am (UTC)> because it was offensive and likely to be seen
> as racist.
I would have said definitely not, and that non-racists should use it to try and recapture the flag from extremists. I still do think that, but I must admit I felt odd walking around yesterday afternoon, worrying whether I was offending the black and Asian people I was passing in the street...
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Date: 2006-06-16 12:27 pm (UTC)