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Although my family are from London, I myself have spent most of my life in the West.  Therefore, I, like my adopted people of the West, look upon London with doubtful and suspicious eyes.   I have to admit though, this description of it in 1192 does make it sound almost fun.  More braggarts than in the whole of France, indeed!


(via Dr Caitlin Green on Twitter, but so excellent I wanted to put it here so I can find it again) 

Date: 2016-07-11 02:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heartofoshun.livejournal.com
OMG! That's terrific.

I have to admit though, this description of it in 1192 does make it sound almost fun.

You made my day! I am bookmarking this one.

Date: 2016-07-12 01:27 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
It is THE BEST description of London.

Date: 2016-07-11 02:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alitheapipkin.livejournal.com
Oh! I read a book about Richard I by Appleby when I was doing my A level History special study, that brings back fond memories - his book was my favourite of those I read, he had a very amusing turn of phrase and seemed fond of picking out the absurdities of the times :)

Date: 2016-07-12 01:23 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I shall have to look out for him if this sample is typical!

Date: 2016-07-11 04:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyofastolat.livejournal.com
Excellent! I bet warnings such as these have been made pretty much verbatim about That London for many centuries. My mental image of medieval London has now been considerably improved with the addition of magicians (with pointy hats, naturally) and mime artists. I also like the infinite parasites - presumably those same ticks that feed on the poor trouserless people of Yore whom I was posting about yesterday. :-)

Date: 2016-07-12 01:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I bet they wear trousers in That London :-D. Except the belly-dancers, possibly.

Date: 2016-07-12 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyofastolat.livejournal.com
I note, though, that in 1192, there is no mention of that chief characteristic of That London: drinks taken with lots of ice. Perhaps when ice houses were introduced to Britain (1660s, according to Wikipedia), Londoners found a new way to define themselves, and gave up all the buffoonery, magic and miming?

Date: 2016-07-11 08:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huinare.livejournal.com
This exhorts the reader to "not associate with the crowd of pimps". I wonder if it is acceptable to associate with individual pimps when they are disarticulated from their Crowd...

Date: 2016-07-12 01:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I think there would be a significant risk that even an individual pimp might turn out to be a smooth-skinned lad, a night-walker, mime or buffoon. Probably safest to avoid the entire conundrum. :-D

Date: 2016-07-11 09:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oonaseckar.livejournal.com
The old girl hasn't changed a bit, then.

Date: 2016-07-12 01:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I particularly like the firm statement that 'all this sort of people fill up all the houses'.

ALL the houses! Full of sorceresses and smooth-skinned lads!

(I wonder what was so suspect about smooth skin. Is our writer a believer in honesty expressed through the medium of pimples...?)
Edited Date: 2016-07-12 01:30 pm (UTC)

Date: 2016-07-12 02:18 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] ylla.livejournal.com
I am curious about the distinctions between smooth-skinned lads, pretty-boys and effeminates!

Date: 2016-07-16 09:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topum.livejournal.com
Are the smooth-skinned lads metrosexuals?

Date: 2016-07-12 08:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oonaseckar.livejournal.com
Also intrigued by the evil of those damn belly-dancers. And mimes. Marcel Marceau, so much to answer for.

Date: 2016-07-12 11:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] timetiger.livejournal.com
Surely the throngs in the eating-houses are harmless.

How many in a throng, anyway?

Date: 2016-07-14 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] winniepoodle.livejournal.com
This is excellent

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