Vingilot

Aug. 21st, 2016 12:11 am
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A ship then new they built for him
of mithril and of elven-glass
with shining prow; no shaven oar
nor sail she bore on silver mast:
the Silmaril as lantern light
and banner bright with living flame
to gleam thereon by Elbereth
herself was set, who thither came
and wings immortal made for him,

So is she a sail-less ship with a Silmaril on the silver mast-top, and Earendil flitting around it on wings?  Or does Vingilot have a sail (ALL art of Vingilot shows at least one sail) and Earendil wingless standing on the foredeck with a Silmaril upon his brow (but possibly Elwing flitting around on wings) ?

Is this Bilbo getting things wrong again?   ( I'm visualising Elrond being quietly amused, both at Bilbo, and also at Aragorn suffering agonies of Mortal Embarrassment on Bilbo's behalf, while Bilbo is quite oblivious.)

Date: 2016-08-21 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lindahoyland.livejournal.com
An excellent point.

Date: 2016-08-21 06:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huinare.livejournal.com
I hadn't noticed that vague wording before; I think I've unconsciously taken the lack of sail and the immortal wings to be metaphors for the ship being able to move on the air by some other unexplained means.

Date: 2016-08-21 01:16 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I hadn't either... until I came to try to draw her!

Date: 2016-08-22 04:10 am (UTC)

Date: 2016-08-22 10:40 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
This is definitely a somewhat poetic interpretation!

Date: 2016-08-23 02:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anna-wing.livejournal.com
But there's a mast!

Date: 2016-08-22 10:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-blackcat.livejournal.com
Oh come on, it's POETIC (should I apologize for the swearword? :D )

Date: 2016-08-22 10:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
I DEMAND BLUEPRINTS. :-D

Date: 2016-08-23 09:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-blackcat.livejournal.com
Er... I'm afraid I overestimated my ability to make jokes in English. What does "blueprints" means right here and now?

Date: 2016-08-23 11:04 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] bunn.livejournal.com
Blueprints = engineering diagrams.

IE, me apparently being unable to cope with things being 'poetic' and demanding details!

Date: 2016-08-24 09:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-blackcat.livejournal.com
Ah! Now I understand.

Date: 2016-08-22 11:30 am (UTC)

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